SOME TI(E)NNEY
LINEAGES
WILLIAM TINNEY
(SR.)
William
Ti(e)nney, Sr. of Newberry Co., SC is presumed to be
the same individual who is mentioned in land transactions 14/15 AUG 1774, 23
NOV, 1775, and 26/27 FEB 1788 in Ninety Six District in SC (Newberry Co. is one
of the counties formed from Ninety Six District). The 1774 and 1788 references are to land on
“a branch of Gilders Creek* called
By 1797 we find William in court for a debt owed to John Coats whose assignee in the case is George Latham. Judgement was “by default.” It is assumed this is William, Sr. as there is no designation that it is William, Jr.
In the 1800 census Newberry Co., SC, William has the following household members:
1 male 10-16 – Isaac?
2 males 16-26 – William and Richard?
1 male over 45 – William, Sr.
1 female under 10
3 females 10-16 Sarah, Polly, and Nancy?
1 female over 45 – Matsilva
2 slaves
Then 29 NOV 1807 William writes his will; his estate inventory is dated 26 AUG 1808. The will names William’s wife, Matsilva, and leaves his land to her and sons Richard and Isaac. After debts are paid, remainder of estate is to be sold and proceeds from that divided between his oldest son William, and William, Sr.’s daughters Sarah (Ayres), Polly and Nancy (wife of William Bonds). Executors are Matsilva and Richard.
RICHARD AND ISAAC
TINNEY
1810 census Newberry Co., SC for Richard Tinney:
1 male 10-16 (Isaac, son of Deziah Elkins)
1 male 26-45 (Richard?)
1 female under 10
1 female over 45 (His wife Ruth? Matsilva?)
1 slave
1810 census Newberry Co., SC for Isaac Finney:
1 male under 10
1 male 16-26 (Isaac)
1 female over 45 (Matsilva?)
Settling of William’s estate is not completed until 1822. Richard’s will is dated 1812, but estate is probated in 1820, before complete settling of William’s estate; Isaac then becomes executor of William’s estate as well as Richard’s. Richard’s will is difficult to decipher, but mentions his wife Ruth and his, presumably illegitimate, son Isaac (son of Deziah Ealkins[Elkins]). Ruth was married to Thomas Stark (sometimes Starks or Starke). This is the same Thomas Stark “of Gilders Creek” who leases from Jacob King “145 acres on a branch of Indian Creek adjacent to,” among others, William Tinney on 13/14 JAN 1791. Thomas Stark dies in 1805: will dated 21 FEB 1805; Ruth is appointed adminx. 10 JAN 1806 with Richard
Tinney as one of the bondsmen; she is summoned to November term of County Court and assigned a court date of MAR 1806 for debt of Thomas Stark to William Lindsey.
Ruth marries Richard Tinney 13 NOV 1808. On the day of their marriage, Ruth deeds some of Thomas Stark’s land to his three youngest children (they had 9): Pennington, Jeremiah, and Rebecca Stark (other children had already received their share when they came of age). Ruth and Richard are “living separately” the last 3 years before he dies (1817-1820?). Richard dies probably before June 1820 (he is not listed on the census, but Isaac is listed, as Tinny). Isaac, Richard’s brother, becomes executor of Richard’s and William’s estates.
Richard dies without legitimate issue. His will names Ruth as getting 1/3 of a parcel of land known as Calhoun’s Place and then leaves the rest of that land and his land on Gilder’s Creek to his son (illegitimate son), Isaac Tinney b. 1799). In 1821 Richard’s brother Isaac (Sr., to distinguish him from Richard’s son) goes to court saying that as an illegitimate son, Isaac, Jr. is only entitled to ¼ of the estate. Isaac, Sr. is also trying to get part of the Stark land that Ruth deeded over to her children. The outcome of this suit is not known, but it is assumed that Isaac, Sr. lost as we find Isaac, Jr. in 1823 selling 197 acres willed to him by his father. He is in Gwinnet Co., GA by 1824 where he remains until his death. On 18 JUN 1822 we see the final payout of William’s estate.
Whether Isaac, Sr. got any land out of the deal is not clear. It may be that he and Richard had shared the inheritance and that the land that Richard willed to his son should have been partly his brother Isaac’s. That may be the reason for the suit: to try and get part of the land that was willed to him by his father. But if Isaac, Jr. sells 197 acres, that is more than William left Richard and Isaac and Matsilva, so it appears that Isaac, Sr. did not get anything in the way of land from his father’s estate, nor from his brother’s. Where did he go?
A possible answer to this is found
in the 1830
1 male under 5 2 females 10-15
1 male 10-15 1 female 30-40 (his wife?)
1male 15-20 (same as 1810?) 1 female 50-60
1 male 40-50 (Isaac)
Isaac is not – as far as I have seen – in the 1840 census,
but in 1840
WILLIAM TINNEY
(JR.)
William Tinney,
Sr.’s estate settlement in 1822 included payment of $54.60 to William Tinney and Sally[Sarah]
Airs[Ayers], $22.65 to William Bonds & wife [Nancy Tinney
Bonds], and $40.07 to Mary [Polly] Tinny.
There is no indication that this William Tinney
is residing anywhere other than
A William Tinney
of an age to be the son of William Sr. above is not found in a census until
1850 when there is a William Tenney age 65, born in
SC, in the household of John and Nancy Wiseman in
In addition, there is this information on the Wisemans in whose household we find this William Tinney:
John and Nancy
(her last name is unknown to us) came to
Shelby County
where John Wiseman, presumably the uncle of
John and Nancy
Wiseman’s first child was born in
There is no evidence of any other
William Tinney of the right age to be the son of
William (Sr.) of Newberry Co., SC. There
are any number of reasons why William Tenney, wheelwright, age 65, would be in the household of
John and Nancy Wiseman in the 1850 census.
But more often than not, the older person in the household like this is
a parent of one of the head-of-house couple – in this case,
Another William Tinney
reference I need to mention here simply because I found him; I do not know
where he fits into the overall picture.
There is a reference in Family Search to a William Tenney
born 26 OCT 1808 in
other names in IG, and I do not find him in the 1870 or 1880 censuses.
JOHN TINNEY
Another Tinney
in
Nothing here has addressed the
Griffith Tinney found in the early records of Jackson
County,
So from this estate and the 1850 census, we can list some of the children of Griffith Tinney as:
William (b. before 1824, probably, as he is not listed in the 1850 census)
Isaac (b. 1824 – d. bet. 1852 and SEP 1866)
John C(alhoun) (b. 1829 – d. bef. 13 JAN 1873, date of estate probate)
Elijah
(b. 29 APR 1831 in
Susan (b. 1834 d. bet. 1860 and 1866)(wife of Samuel Vaughn)
Andrew (b. 1838 – d. before 1866)
Sarah (b. 1835)(wife of William Burton; married about 1850? as she is not
in
Also from the estate and from the 1850 census, we can determine the children of Isaac, son of Griffith Tinney:
Martha (b. 1845)(wife of William Beard)
Sarah Jane (b. 1846)(listed as Sarah Tinney Dicus in the 1860 census in the household of her guardian Jason H. Dicus)(She marries John Newberry Selby 17 MAR 1865; they are living next to Elijah Tinney in the 1870 census)
Margaret A. (b. 1848)(listed as Margaret Dicus in the 1860 census in household of her guardian Jason H. Dicus)
John (b. 1850 – d. bef. 1860)
George (b. 1852)(listed as George Dicus in the 1860 census in household of his guardian Jason H. Dicus)
Also from the estate and from the 1860 and 1870 censuses we can determine the children of Susan (Vaughn), daughter of Griffith Tinney:
Martha A. (b. 1853)
Austin M. (b. 1855)
William (b. 1859 – d. bef. 1866)
Rebecca J. (b. 1862)
John C. Tinney, son of
Lucy Ann (b.1851) (wife of Dave R. Bellomy)
William Ambrose (called Ambrose)(b. 1854)(married “Aunt” B. Bellomy)
James Andrew (called Andy)(b. 1857)(married Donie Frazier; lived at Maynard’s Cove)
Charles Lewis (Charles L. in 1870 census; called Lewis)(b. 1859)
John Franklin (b. 1863)(married Mary Ada Holland)
Martha Jane (b.1862)(she is listed after John Franklin in the 18 70 census)
Elijah Tinney, son of
James A(M. in Proctor). (b. 17 NOV 1852)
John A. (b. 17 JAN 1854)
William M. (b. 24 MAY 1858)
Walter G. (b. 26 JUN 1861)
Margaret P. (b. 22 JAN 1864 according to Proctor; 1862 on 1870 census)
Elija N. (b. 3 MAR 1866 according to Proctor; 1864 on 1870 census)
Martha J. (b. 27 JUN 1870)
Isac Newton (b. 25 APR 1872)
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*Gilders Creek flows into Indian Creek just northwest of
where present-day SC Hwy 176 and 121 split, close to the Brick House campground
in
REFERENCES
Annie Coleman Proctor Memorial Collection, Vols. II and V. Scottsboro Public Library,
George Leland Summer Historical and Genealogical Research Files,
films #4835-4843. Scottsboro Public Library,
Jackson County, Alabama Probate minutes Book A (1859-1859), p. 156.
Jackson County, Alabama Probate minutes Book B (1859-1855), pp. 468, 496-97, 557.
Jackson County, Alabama Probate minutes Book XX (1865-1866), pp. 408, 488-489.
Jackson County, Alabama Probate minutes Book C (1866-1867), p. 50.
Jackson County, Alabama Probate minutes Book EE (1868-1869), p. 403.
Jackson County, Alabama Probate minutes Book JJ (1873-1874), pp. 2, 393, 463, 477, 714, 731, 734-736.
Carroll, Thomas
Battle. Historical Sketches of
Holcomb, Brent
H.
Holcomb, Brent
H.
Newbery County, South Carolina Minutes of the Country [sic] Court 1785-1798 [contains abstracts], pp. 124, 169, 306.
Newberry County South Carolina Probate Estate Abstracts Volume I, [containing]Probate Estate Boxes 1-10, 335, 356, 357, 361, copyright 1987, p. 223.
Newberry County South Carolina Probate Estate Abstracts Volume 2, [containing]Probate Estate Boxes 11-25, copyright 1989, pp. 421, 534-535, 619, 658-659.
Will of William Tinney, Newberry Co., SC.
Will of Richard Tinney, Newberry Co., SC.
Will of Griffith Tinney, Jackson Co.,
Family Search International Genealogical Index Record: File number 183537, page 994, Reference number 33125.
1800 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=7590&path=South+Carolina.Newberry+District.Not+Stated.63>
William Tinney,
Sr. of Newberry
1810 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=7613&path=South+Carolina.Newberry.Not+Stated.16>.
Isaac Tinney,
son of William, Sr. of
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=7613&path=South+Carolina.Newberry.Not+Stated.24>
Richard Tinney,
son of William Sr. of
1830 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8058&path=Alabama.Jackson.Not+Stated.35>
1830 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8058&path=Tennessee.McMinn.Not+Stated.131>.
Isaac, brother of Richard and son
of William, Sr. of
1840 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8057&path=Tennessee.Mcminn.Not+Stated.104>.
James Tinney age 50-60 with 1 female age 15-20
1840 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8057&path=Alabama.Jackson.Not+Stated.57>.
1840 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8057&path=Alabama.Shelby.Not+Stated.21>.
Richard Tinney
1850 Census,
< http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8054&path=Alabama.Jackson.District+19.75>
< http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8054&path=Alabama.Jackson.District+19.76>
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8054&path=Alabama.Jackson.Township+4+Range+6.8>
1850 Census, McMinn Co., TN. Ancestry.com.
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=8054&path=Tennessee.McMinn.Subdivision+23.234>
Isaac Tinney age 65 (son of William of SC?). Younger Isaac in household age 21.
1860 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=7667&path=Illinois.Edwards.Not+Stated.5>
Isaac Tinney (son of William, Sr. of SC?) Younger Isaac in next household. Same as McMinn Co. in 1830 and 1850 probably.
1860 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=7667&path=Georgia.Gwinnett.District+404.2>.
1860 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=7667&path=Alabama.Tallapoosa.Western+Division.97>
1870 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=7590&path=South+Carolina.Newberry+District.Not+Stated.63>
1870 Census,
<http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/View.aspx?dbid=7163&path=Alabama.Shelby.Beat+12.10>